Derek Cheng

Derek Cheng

TonkotsuTonkotsu
Founder of Tonkotsu

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Tonkotsup/tonkotsuAJ•

9h ago

Is a linux build on the horizon?

I just switched to OpenSUSE after windows kept messing with my touch pad drivers to the point where I had to reinstall them every day to somewhat fix the issue.
I've been a heavy Linux user on and off since 09 and have hopped all the distros.
I might try to run the Windows version of Tonkotsu with WINE or even Lutris, but I am unsure of how that will go.
I don't know if there will be a linux build. I know half of san fransisco is on mac so probably not lol.
but one can dream.

Tonkotsup/tonkotsuDerek Cheng•

13h ago

The Two Zoom Levels of Agents

Building @Tonkotsu has taught us many lessons in product design, with both the underlying technology and user behavior shifting rapidly.

One of the hardest but most critical lessons we ve learned is about calibrating the zoom level how close or far the user feels from the work. You can see examples of this play out across the industry:

  • Codex gets flak for going heads-down for too long compared to Claude. Users feel too zoomed out from the work.

  • By contrast, Cursor and IDEs are starting to feel too zoomed in. When the majority of code is written by agents, an editor-first UI is a misfit.

Dark Mode: Tonkotsu did 63 tasks and I gave feedback

We launched dark mode for Tonkotsu earlier this week. It was written entirely by Tonkotsu with 63 completed tasks. My involvement was exclusively during planning and verification (the classic barbell shape described here).

Here's how it went...

What coding agents do you use?

There are tons of great coding agent CLIs and IDEs out there. Which do you use on a regular basis? What stands out as being the killer feature?

Derek Cheng•

11d ago

Lessons Learned from Building Agents

PH builders: what are key lessons you ve learned whether technical or product or GTM from building agents? This is still such a new discipline that it would be great to share amongst this community of builders.

I ll kick off with an experience that had us scratching our heads for months last year

OpenAIp/openaifmerian•

12d ago

Did OpenAI just acqui-hire Cline?

It looks like OpenAI may have acqui-hired the @Cline team. It's not currently clear what that means for the future of the AI coding agent as a project, as their team members are now on the @Codex by OpenAI team.

Any open-source alternatives? @Kilo Code? @Zed? else?

Tonkotsup/tonkotsuAJ•

12d ago

What type of people will flock to Tonkotsu?

I've been trying it out and am highly impressed, and becoming aware of just how tonkotsu is built around a deeply simple concept.
Your document is your foundation, and you build from there. It should read like a notebook that also has every feature and its tasks attached. It's like if Jupyter or Colab were used for project management.
Tonkotsu is perfect for people who work in blocks or steps, for those who break down a problem into small er ones and keep their focus on the goal. Chart course on paper, engrave your goals in stone.
How do you use tonkotsu?

Do you consider yourself to be this sort of person?

And what's your favorite ramen?

Tonkotsup/tonkotsuDerek Cheng•

14d ago

Managing Unreliable Compilers

There s a lot of discussion on X and other places about the future of software development. As with many things in life, the reality is both complex and in the middle of the extreme viewpoints. What we re seeing at Tonkotsu:

  • Agents are fast and powerful, but make mistakes. They can t operate unsupervised. We think they re like unreliable compilers.

  • That means developers are as critical as ever, but their role shifts to being managers of coding agents.

  • This transformation means developers need to be focused on planning and verification, while delegating coding. The role has become barbell-shaped, and the industry needs new tools and workflows to accommodate this.

More here https://blog.tonkotsu.ai/p/manag...

Jake Friedberg•

14d ago

Is usage-based pricing becoming the norm for AI tools?

Hey everyone,

I've built my product around traditional SaaS pricing (monthly tiers), but I m starting to wonder if that model is getting outdated, especially with more AI-powered and compute-heavy tools entering the market.
That shift requires real architectural changes, instrumentation, metering, billing logic, and UI changes, not just pricing tweaks. It s something I m starting to seriously think about for my own product.

In particular, AI usage has real COGs (every prompt costs money), and I m seeing more platforms experimenting with usage-based models, or hybrids like SaaS base + usage + overage.

For those of you building AI or compute-intensive tools:

Tonkotsup/tonkotsuDerek Cheng•

17d ago

Thanks for #1 - here's what's next

Hey everyone - we re tremendously grateful for our fantastic launch yesterday, ending at #1 for the day. Thank you all for your support!

I started Tonkotsu because I saw a huge opportunity for a complete rethink of AI coding not just incremental adjustments to established tools and workflows. Having managed teams of hundreds of engineers at Meta, Microsoft, and Atlassian, it s been fascinating to me to find that the role of the developer has shifted overnight: you're now the manager of a team of agents. We're building Tonkotsu to help you succeed in that new role.

Claude by Anthropicp/claudefmerian•

19d ago

What's the best AI model for coding?

New AI models pop up every week. Some developer tools like @Cursor, @Zed, and @Kilo Code let you choose between different models, while more opinionated products like @Amp and @Tonkotsu default to 1 model.

Curious what the community recommends for coding tasks? Any preferences?