This is the first major release of Kraa. Kraa is not just another note-takin app. It's a web app for any kind of writing, be it a personal note, collaborative rich-text document, or even a group real-real time conversation (via Kraa's unique Chat widget).
Hello Product Hunters! I'm Lev, one of three building this product.
We are well aware of the sea of editors and note-taking apps out there. Kraa in a way adds to this already overwhelming choice, but our approach is quite different and allows for specific use cases one might not expect from a regular 'markdown editor'.
One of the core principles of Kraa is a strong separation of style and content. Our templating system allow for rich customizations while the experience of actually writing or reading the content remains clutter-free and focused.
Kraa is also aiming to be an abstraction over ANY written text. We are still far from that goal, but you will already find — on a first-glance odd — features like real-real-time chats or a completely frictionless blog-publishing experience (literally just change access from 'anyone with link' to a 'reader' and add a Chat widget for comments).
@tade_odunlami Yes, it creates a regular <h1>, <p>, ... structure that you can copy-paste anywhere. You can also export your leafs (Kraa's term for documents) into .md file.
On the homepage, can you make the scroll down a little more prominent? I thought the website was incomplete. You hid the features of your app just because of a small UX
@chilarai Yes, fair enough, we will make it a little clearer
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Wow, Kraa looks incredible! The writing app for everything tagline is spot on. Super curious how the Chat widget handles large group conversations in real-time. Definitely giving this a try!
@jaydev13 Thank you! We had some successful tests with 50+ real-time participants for the chat and the theoretical limits are quite high with plenty of room for optimization. We have big plans for the chat feature.
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How does this compare to Notion and Obsidian? It appears to use Notion's cloud-first architecture. Any plans to have native apps across platforms?
@deltaxsingh Kraa is not trying to directly compete with Notion nor Obsidian. Notion offers tons of stuff around databases and work-specific features and Obsidian is more about a local-first experience. We are trying to offer a highly focused writing/reading experience and frictionless collaboration and sharing (even for stuff like a blog or that real-time chat experience).
Kinda into this idea. One place for notes, docs, even group chat. I’m constantly jumping between Notes, Docs, and Slack. If Kraa keeps long-form clean and doesn’t turn into a noisy inbox, I’m interested. Will give it a spin tonight.
@alexcloudstar Thanks, Alex! If you can – share your thoughts once you give it a try!
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@ladislav_kafka The writing workspace is beautifully designed. How are you capturing writers as a network effect? What's the retention curve looking like after day 30 and the secret to it looking like?
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Kraa
Hello Product Hunters! I'm Lev, one of three building this product.
We are well aware of the sea of editors and note-taking apps out there. Kraa in a way adds to this already overwhelming choice, but our approach is quite different and allows for specific use cases one might not expect from a regular 'markdown editor'.
One of the core principles of Kraa is a strong separation of style and content. Our templating system allow for rich customizations while the experience of actually writing or reading the content remains clutter-free and focused.
Kraa is also aiming to be an abstraction over ANY written text. We are still far from that goal, but you will already find — on a first-glance odd — features like real-real-time chats or a completely frictionless blog-publishing experience (literally just change access from 'anyone with link' to a 'reader' and add a Chat widget for comments).
Live demos (no login required):
Chat
Blog article
Long-form story
Magazine
Kraa is built on ProseMirror (via TipTap) and Svelte.
You don’t need an account to try it. We’d love to hear what you think.
Visla
How do you pronounce Kraa?
Kraa
@davidos366 It rhymes with 'bra', but hold onto that 'a' tad bit longer.
Is the editorial style compatible with most platforms (Medium, Substack etc)?
Kraa
@tade_odunlami Yes, it creates a regular <h1>, <p>, ... structure that you can copy-paste anywhere. You can also export your leafs (Kraa's term for documents) into .md file.
Swytchcode
On the homepage, can you make the scroll down a little more prominent?
I thought the website was incomplete. You hid the features of your app just because of a small UX
Kraa
@chilarai Yes, fair enough, we will make it a little clearer
Wow, Kraa looks incredible! The writing app for everything tagline is spot on. Super curious how the Chat widget handles large group conversations in real-time. Definitely giving this a try!
Kraa
@jaydev13 Thank you! We had some successful tests with 50+ real-time participants for the chat and the theoretical limits are quite high with plenty of room for optimization. We have big plans for the chat feature.
How does this compare to Notion and Obsidian? It appears to use Notion's cloud-first architecture. Any plans to have native apps across platforms?
Kraa
@deltaxsingh Kraa is not trying to directly compete with Notion nor Obsidian. Notion offers tons of stuff around databases and work-specific features and Obsidian is more about a local-first experience. We are trying to offer a highly focused writing/reading experience and frictionless collaboration and sharing (even for stuff like a blog or that real-time chat experience).
Native apps for iOS/Android are planned!
Remention
Saw this a while back on HN, congrats on the launch here!
The design is AWESOME 👏🏻 Just pure beauty.
Kraa
@pasha_tseluyko Thank you! Glad to hear you like it.
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Kinda into this idea. One place for notes, docs, even group chat. I’m constantly jumping between Notes, Docs, and Slack. If Kraa keeps long-form clean and doesn’t turn into a noisy inbox, I’m interested. Will give it a spin tonight.
Kraa
@alexcloudstar Thanks, Alex! If you can – share your thoughts once you give it a try!
@ladislav_kafka The writing workspace is beautifully designed. How are you capturing writers as a network effect? What's the retention curve looking like after day 30 and the secret to it looking like?